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boehner was offered one to one. not only are phony spending cuts phony, they get smaller each time. >> keep moving the goal post. >>> grover, we have to leave it there. thank you. >> okay. >>> imagine every shipping port from massachusetts to texas shut down. nothing gets in or out. unions mobilizing to strike this weekend. if they don't get their way, will everyone pay? [ male announcer ] it's simple physics... a body at rest tends to stay at rest... while a body in motion tends to stay in motion. staying active can actually ease arthritis sympto. but if you have arthritis, staying active can be difficult. prescription celebrex can help relieve arthritis pain so your body can stay in motion. because just one 200mg celebrex a day can provide 24 hour relief for many with arthritis pain and inflammation. plus, in clinical studies, celebrex is proven to improve daily physical function so moving is easier. celebrex can be taken with or without food. and it's not a narcotic. you and your doctor should balance the benets
boehner was offered one to one. not only are phony spending cuts phony, they get smaller each time. >> keep moving the goal post. >>> grover, we have to leave it there. thank you. >> okay. >>> imagine every shipping port from massachusetts to texas shut down. nothing gets in or out. unions mobilizing to strike this weekend. if they don't get their way, will everyone pay? [ male announcer ] it's simple physics... a body at rest tends to stay at rest... while a body...
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speaker boehner is holding this up. he refused to get his caucus together and a caucus divided because you have the tea party friends and the right winger who is don't want to go along. it's impossible to get anything done if you don't have a basic understanding of math. of president clinton calling it arithmetic. you need a majority. why are you trying to make it more complicated than it is. >> is mitch mcconnell going to save the day? >> i don't know about that, but let me take issue. the republican conference in the house is very conservative. we are seeing a very conservative conference that may not coming to to vote on something, even if nancy pelosi can corral the democrats, they need to pick off republicans. we don't know if any of them would vote for something like this. john boehner is ready to strike a deal. i'm not sure many others are. in the senate we have seen a number of conservative republicans saying they would vote. >> 20 republican votes? >> at this point it's very hard to say. i think john boehner wo
speaker boehner is holding this up. he refused to get his caucus together and a caucus divided because you have the tea party friends and the right winger who is don't want to go along. it's impossible to get anything done if you don't have a basic understanding of math. of president clinton calling it arithmetic. you need a majority. why are you trying to make it more complicated than it is. >> is mitch mcconnell going to save the day? >> i don't know about that, but let me take...
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i think that hurt them, boehner. i think that's why boehner is being controlled, unfortunately, by the right wing. i agree with bernie sanders. very sad. i believe that boehner's a good man and wants a deal done and impossible with these folks. >> the finger's not only pointed at the republicans and the tea party caucus but also to some democrats. here's one of your republican colleagues this morning. take a listen to what she said. >> sure. >> everything -- it's just about scoring political points and i know that the american people are tired of that. they're tired of all of us. i understand that. we just make -- used car sales men look good. that's the only group below us. we have to get our act together and prove to the american people that we can regain the trust that they once had in us and get the job done. >> yeah. the perception -- go ahead, please, congressman. looking at the can kicked down the road by both sides. >> let me be clear. she is a very good friend of mine and i understand her point of view. but
i think that hurt them, boehner. i think that's why boehner is being controlled, unfortunately, by the right wing. i agree with bernie sanders. very sad. i believe that boehner's a good man and wants a deal done and impossible with these folks. >> the finger's not only pointed at the republicans and the tea party caucus but also to some democrats. here's one of your republican colleagues this morning. take a listen to what she said. >> sure. >> everything -- it's just about...
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juan, you said people say boehner is safe and i have been hearing opposite. i like boehner. tough situation. trying to herd cats. i don't agree what we did the other day to put a bill on the floor he doesn't have support for. but you think he won't hold on. >> juan: i think he will hold on. i don't think there is enough time before january 3 to line up. what happened to john boehner, my gosh, they -- his troops abandoned him. >> andrea: mccarthy is the whip. he should know how many works he has. >> juan: he works for boehner. >> kimberly: but he goes back -- it was a mess. >> juan: the dynamic didn't make sense. this goes back to what eric said. he, what everybody on the far right side why am i not going to put a vote in place not coming to reality. there >> exactly. no way, true conservative doesn't want taxes to go up. >> juan: but this is where we differ. negotiate and compromise if you care about the country and the economy at some point. i have been elected but let's goletnegotiate. >> kimberly: is president obama going to negotiate? >> eric: if it doesn't start with 25
juan, you said people say boehner is safe and i have been hearing opposite. i like boehner. tough situation. trying to herd cats. i don't agree what we did the other day to put a bill on the floor he doesn't have support for. but you think he won't hold on. >> juan: i think he will hold on. i don't think there is enough time before january 3 to line up. what happened to john boehner, my gosh, they -- his troops abandoned him. >> andrea: mccarthy is the whip. he should know how many...
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needs the cooperation in a cent republican leader mitch mcconnell and speaker john boehner to john boehner and bringing any deal to the floor that is not likely to get in the republican members and they count on it to assure that they won't filibuster the deal. >> it seems like after the boehner plan b went down, republicans are sort of this washing their hands of this and president obama is void by the confidence that if we go over the cliff, perhaps treasury can avert the worst things off the bad and republicans will get the political blame for it. that's why we are not moving so quickly? >> the goal is now for him to sort out a deal. they have both consummate deal makers. if anyone can do it, they can. i don't get the sense of urgency that they are going to take all the blame for this. we are probably going to get close to this and take wall street on january 1st to see a connection here. >> as i was reading this morning, going off the fiscal cliff was a bungee jump. we go over and the markets collapse. it's amazing that's what we have to get to. >> here's what we know. washington only
needs the cooperation in a cent republican leader mitch mcconnell and speaker john boehner to john boehner and bringing any deal to the floor that is not likely to get in the republican members and they count on it to assure that they won't filibuster the deal. >> it seems like after the boehner plan b went down, republicans are sort of this washing their hands of this and president obama is void by the confidence that if we go over the cliff, perhaps treasury can avert the worst things...
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boehner and the boys? what's the rush? ♪ >> first of all, we want to say merry christmas. >> president obama is cutting short his christmas break with the fiscal cliff looming large. >> the fiscal cliff gets closer. congress now has six days left to make a deal. >> aloha, hawaii. >> to my republican colleagues, the ronald reagan model is if you get 80% of what you want, that's a pretty good day. >> they were this close. they were this close to a solution. >> he's going to get tax rate hikes. >> are we going over the cliff? >> i believe we are. >> be republican and be conservative and pass a bill that cuts tax. >> boehner has no control over his extreme right wing faction. >> should anybody's taxes be raised at this point? answer yes or no. >> no. no. ♪ >> we begin as president obama and the senate head back to washington set for one last effort to avert the first fiscal cliff. aloha means good-bye for the president as he packs bound for the white house tonight. the president cutting short his vacation leaving michelle
boehner and the boys? what's the rush? ♪ >> first of all, we want to say merry christmas. >> president obama is cutting short his christmas break with the fiscal cliff looming large. >> the fiscal cliff gets closer. congress now has six days left to make a deal. >> aloha, hawaii. >> to my republican colleagues, the ronald reagan model is if you get 80% of what you want, that's a pretty good day. >> they were this close. they were this close to a solution....
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boehner is not a strong leader. he doesn't have the pork and the earmarks anymore since they've been banned. and a lot of the incoming -- or the folks that came in in 2010, the tea party folks, they look at the tom delay are era and say -- >> they're both long time qulil wat capitol hill watchers, and we have to ask you are you seeing any sway now in following boehner? is he losing support? >> obviously the fact that he thought that he would be able to bring the bill last week to the floor to raise taxes on everybody making a million dollars or more and then had to pull it before he even brought it up for a vote, that gives you your answer. the answer is yes. he went out so far on a limb it almost broke off saying he was going to do it, it was going to pass. what he was trying to do i'm told from sources, familiar with the meetings that he had leading up to the decision which didn't go anywhere, was try to save republicans from themselves. he understands, he's an old time -- you you covered him for years in congress
boehner is not a strong leader. he doesn't have the pork and the earmarks anymore since they've been banned. and a lot of the incoming -- or the folks that came in in 2010, the tea party folks, they look at the tom delay are era and say -- >> they're both long time qulil wat capitol hill watchers, and we have to ask you are you seeing any sway now in following boehner? is he losing support? >> obviously the fact that he thought that he would be able to bring the bill last week to...
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certainly if speaker boehner puts something on the floor that his republican conference is not happy with, that's a risk that he's taking. >> has the president moved much on spending? because we talk all the time about the taxes but we seem to give a little less emphasis on the spending. is the president meaningful moving on that? >> depends on your definition of meaningfully. certainly there has been some movement from the white house over time on spending. i think there's been a movement toward talking about entitlements. when you talk about the cpi, consumer price index, that shift over there, that's a small concession to where republicans are but nobody's really talking about the big spending cuts that would have to be made to major entitlement programs to really alter the way that our budget course looks for the future, or to raise taxes in such a way as to pay for those programs as they are currently constituted. >> we made a lot of promises that are too costly to keep, it seems to me. thank you very much. have a happy new year. >> you, too. >> simon? >> let's check where we ar
certainly if speaker boehner puts something on the floor that his republican conference is not happy with, that's a risk that he's taking. >> has the president moved much on spending? because we talk all the time about the taxes but we seem to give a little less emphasis on the spending. is the president meaningful moving on that? >> depends on your definition of meaningfully. certainly there has been some movement from the white house over time on spending. i think there's been a...
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don't expect boehner to put something on the floor that raises taxes on anybody. he couldn't do it for anybody making more than a million dollars. so what are we left with? going over the cliff, tax rates go up for everybody and then a vote, a vote to cut taxes for 98% of americans. instead of a vote to raise taxes for 1% of americans and it makes much more likely to get republican support. they can make it retroactive to january 1st, fix a lot of things that are going to go haywire if we go past january 1st without a deal, thomas. >> mike, great to see you. thank you, sir. >>> want to bring in the political power panel for this wednesday morning, lynn sweet, keith boykin and alice stewart. great to see all of you here. post-merry christmas to everybody. i want to start by showing the latest gallup information on what americans are feeling right now, gang. about the fears of the fiscal cliff. deal likely at 50%, deal not likely at 48%. and this is gone down continually as we have seen, lynn, over several days, whether more optimism before the christmas holiday and
don't expect boehner to put something on the floor that raises taxes on anybody. he couldn't do it for anybody making more than a million dollars. so what are we left with? going over the cliff, tax rates go up for everybody and then a vote, a vote to cut taxes for 98% of americans. instead of a vote to raise taxes for 1% of americans and it makes much more likely to get republican support. they can make it retroactive to january 1st, fix a lot of things that are going to go haywire if we go...
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we know there's not been communication between boehner and mcconnell, obama and boehner. are you amazed with this short amount of time to go there seems to be no sense of urgency on either side? >> am i amazed, given what we went through with the debt ceiling, no, i'm not amazed. i think there are forces here in this town that would like for us, sure people would like for there to be a deal, but going over the cliff on january 1st when there's this notion where it's not really a cliff, it's a slope, it's a curb depending who you talk to, that you can repair the damage if you get a deal done, you know, a few days after january 3rd. i think people feel like they can slow walk. as we saw last week when plan b failed, you know, speaker boehner said it's up to the white house and the democrats to come up with a deal. >> washing my hands with it. what's interesting is what you just touched on, conventional wisdom has grown now to it's a cliff, it's a cliff, we can't go off it, to we're okay for two to three weeks afterwards, the treasury can stay in place. do you think they wan
we know there's not been communication between boehner and mcconnell, obama and boehner. are you amazed with this short amount of time to go there seems to be no sense of urgency on either side? >> am i amazed, given what we went through with the debt ceiling, no, i'm not amazed. i think there are forces here in this town that would like for us, sure people would like for there to be a deal, but going over the cliff on january 1st when there's this notion where it's not really a cliff,...
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i have been watching the news and everything like that, and i do not see the republican -- john boehner is working with the president to do anything. they do not do anything. they have -- they do not work with the president. i am wondering, why does he not work for the american people that they elected to do the american people business, not their business. host: thank you for calling. a live picture of the u.s. capitol. 7:23 in washington. some heavy rain and perhaps some snow. a. when terry mix are expecting in town. we mention that because the president is heading back into town. the senate and white house -- the senate and house are due back tomorrow. this is an politico. there is another piece of this morning that says the house member elect is also interested in the peak in the seat -- adapter the seat. springfield, va., lewis, an independent. caller: good morning. you could consider me a little bit pessimistic. i am actually looking at it as realistically as possible. i have a degree in macroeconomics. i believe that they all should be -- we should institute term limits on all of
i have been watching the news and everything like that, and i do not see the republican -- john boehner is working with the president to do anything. they do not do anything. they have -- they do not work with the president. i am wondering, why does he not work for the american people that they elected to do the american people business, not their business. host: thank you for calling. a live picture of the u.s. capitol. 7:23 in washington. some heavy rain and perhaps some snow. a. when terry...
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john boehner will come back at any time. his office told us it would be sometime after christmas. so he could be back as soon as today. the upper chamber in commerce is coming back tomorrow to pick up where they left off on the important domestic surveillance bisa. they will meet for a vote on the $50.6 billion bill for hurricane sandy relief. they will be back in the same zip code as far as we know there are no specific time or places on the books for an inperson meaning between the two. something else that remains to be seen is everybody will return to the table with a cooler head which the president shawas hopi for before he went on his family vacation. hoe over do you. >> the fiscal cliff we have been telling you so much about could be devastating for thousands of american businesses and their workers. their new concerns this morning about profits for those companies. lauren simonetti from the fox business network joins us to explain. what's going on? >> the fiscal cliff puts it in jeopardy. many are afraid to invest in their business and hire new workers. make plans. >> no lo
john boehner will come back at any time. his office told us it would be sometime after christmas. so he could be back as soon as today. the upper chamber in commerce is coming back tomorrow to pick up where they left off on the important domestic surveillance bisa. they will meet for a vote on the $50.6 billion bill for hurricane sandy relief. they will be back in the same zip code as far as we know there are no specific time or places on the books for an inperson meaning between the two....
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we have been so focused on the house, speaker boehner, plan. about, plan b falling apart. now speaker boehner is pointing towards the senate and the white house is pointing towards the senate as a place where we might get bipartisan cooperation. they think they have 10 republican votes for some kind of a plan that the president would propose that democrats in republicans in the senate could get together on and then ask speaker boehner to have a vote on it in the house. that could be a problem for speaker boehner because he could get a bill passed with that splits his republican caucus and puts in danger his re-election as speaker on january 3rd. kelly: that is a lot of talk going around in circles in washington right now. you're very optimistic something can be done but on the other hand there are several economist, juan, that predict indeed we'll go over the fiscal cliff and the inaction of congress has the potential of plunging the united states into another recession. that said, they can't afford to becoming a reality. >> so far they have been very fortunate that the ma
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eastern time and that will get him back thursday morning where he & and speaker boehner need to figure out how to bridge a 400 million dollar gap in their positions to avoid the fiscal cliff. the last time we heard from the president, he thought a break would benefit and bring lawmakers together. to make a difference >> everybody can cool off and drink egg nogand have christmas cookies and sing christmas carrolls and enjoy the company of loved ones and ask every member of congress when they are back home to think about that. think . obligations of people who cent us here. >> speaker boehner is expected to return to dc any time he with drew the republican plan b deal that extends tax cuts to everyone under millionaire. he was confident that the cliff could be avoided last time we heard from him. >> of course, hope springs eternal and i know we have in us to come together and do the right thing. we'll work on a plan to protect families and small businesses. >> and so there is time for a in person meeting. >> we are getting some twitter for rick. what is new york city looking like with a
eastern time and that will get him back thursday morning where he & and speaker boehner need to figure out how to bridge a 400 million dollar gap in their positions to avoid the fiscal cliff. the last time we heard from the president, he thought a break would benefit and bring lawmakers together. to make a difference >> everybody can cool off and drink egg nogand have christmas cookies and sing christmas carrolls and enjoy the company of loved ones and ask every member of congress...
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. >> the president was $200 billion higher on revenues and speaker boehner, $200 billion higher on spending cuts. >> if you get 80% of what you want, that's a pretty good day. >> reporter: tough decisions ahead, six days left. >> lawmakers will likely take on spending reform and tax cuts when the debate heats up. >> looks like they will be working over the new year. >>> a note was left by a suspected shooter that killed two firefighters christmas eve in new york. more details on the person already convicted of murder. >> reporter: police say the christmas eve ambush of four volunteer firefighters happened as they fought a massive fire in new york was spilled out in typewritten detail. >> quote i still have to get ready to see how much of the neighborhood i can burn down and do what i like doing best, killing people. >> reporter: authorities say 62-year-old william spangler, who served prison time killing his grandmother more than 30 years ago shot at first responders who arrived at his burning house, spreading this six other homes. >> we are being shot at multiple firing. i am shot. i think
. >> the president was $200 billion higher on revenues and speaker boehner, $200 billion higher on spending cuts. >> if you get 80% of what you want, that's a pretty good day. >> reporter: tough decisions ahead, six days left. >> lawmakers will likely take on spending reform and tax cuts when the debate heats up. >> looks like they will be working over the new year. >>> a note was left by a suspected shooter that killed two firefighters christmas eve in...
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gregg: what of john boehner though? steve latourette, who said, the same 50 or 60 chuckle heads who always screw things up, speaking of the tea party group. >> yeah. gregg: he said it is not really the speaker's fault. is it the speaker's fault? >> well, look, i think boehner was, he is in a bad spot. there are no good outcomes here for republicans. there have been no good policy outcomes for republicans. i watched the steven latourette comment, one of the things that struck me, these are the guys, 50 or 60 chuckle heads came here and screwed things up. the presumption congress was working just fine before they arrived. i would argue that it is nice we have people in congress who are actually serious about looking at the long term consequences of our overspending over these past couple of decades. that is where the real problem is. he can say they're stubborn and not willing to compromise and all things he said repeatedly as he made those criticisms but the reality is they're actually trying to solve the long-term probl
gregg: what of john boehner though? steve latourette, who said, the same 50 or 60 chuckle heads who always screw things up, speaking of the tea party group. >> yeah. gregg: he said it is not really the speaker's fault. is it the speaker's fault? >> well, look, i think boehner was, he is in a bad spot. there are no good outcomes here for republicans. there have been no good policy outcomes for republicans. i watched the steven latourette comment, one of the things that struck me,...
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the president and speaker john boehner have not spoken in nearly a week. when the house republicans convene conference call today, all they were told is lawmakers will get 48 hours' notice if and when they need to come back to session. the talks first stall over the preferred option of plan "a." moving from the income level of $250,000 to $400,000. the focus shifted to plan "b," boehner fallback and would have raised tax on those making $1 million but failed when could not get republican votes. >> all eyes turn to the senate that could be key to a deal on plan "c." scaled-back bill that the president says will focus on unemployment benefits and reverting to the 250,000 level on taxes. >> i asked leaders of congress to work toward a package that prevents a tax hike on middle class americans, protects unemployment insurance for 2 million americans. lays the groundwork for further work on growth and deficit reduction. >> that means taxes go up for some now and spending cut on medicare and other programs are kicked to another date. >> what the president offere
the president and speaker john boehner have not spoken in nearly a week. when the house republicans convene conference call today, all they were told is lawmakers will get 48 hours' notice if and when they need to come back to session. the talks first stall over the preferred option of plan "a." moving from the income level of $250,000 to $400,000. the focus shifted to plan "b," boehner fallback and would have raised tax on those making $1 million but failed when could not...
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last week house speaker john boehner failed to get his own bill through the house. so now things are in the s senate's court. leaders there will have to come up with a compromise to avert the tax hikes and spending cuts set to go into effect during the first of the year. president obama had been working with house speaker john boehner, trying to get a big deal, but talks fell apart. so hopes for that have all but faded, the president conceding he would accept a smaller measure as long as it includes taxes going up on the wealthiest americans. if the country goes over the cliff, economists warn it could be dire. the average american would wind up paying about $2,000 more in taxes and eventually, savannah, if we go over the cliff and stay there, the economy could dip back into recession. now, lawmakers are also headed back to d.c. in fact, the senate is back in session tomorrow. savannah? >> short holiday. lot of work to do. kristen welker in honolulu. thank you. willie? >>> former president george h.w. bush spent his christmas in a hospital after a series of setbacks
last week house speaker john boehner failed to get his own bill through the house. so now things are in the s senate's court. leaders there will have to come up with a compromise to avert the tax hikes and spending cuts set to go into effect during the first of the year. president obama had been working with house speaker john boehner, trying to get a big deal, but talks fell apart. so hopes for that have all but faded, the president conceding he would accept a smaller measure as long as it...
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before the christmas break, speaker john boehner was unable to get enough support from respects to pass his plan and help said it was up to the white house and the senate to avert the cliff. so now harry reid is believed to be crafting a plan of his own. it's expected to extend bush-era tax cuts. it would also include short-term spending cuts instead of the massive cuts that would occur if there is no deal. it would also patch up the alternative minimum tax that will hit even more middle class families and schedule a drop off for doctors. >> if republicans do give in and support the deal being put together by harry reid that deal is expected to be far less favorable than the potential deal they had been working on with president obama. >> republican strategist, frank luntz has been talking with voters, what is the chance you see this becomes the new compromise? >> i'm not sure if hooert side is watching very closely. we did a survey and we got two interesting questions. one that's very tough on republicans. we asked the american people who is the gop fighting for and representing, the n
before the christmas break, speaker john boehner was unable to get enough support from respects to pass his plan and help said it was up to the white house and the senate to avert the cliff. so now harry reid is believed to be crafting a plan of his own. it's expected to extend bush-era tax cuts. it would also include short-term spending cuts instead of the massive cuts that would occur if there is no deal. it would also patch up the alternative minimum tax that will hit even more middle class...
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. >> the president was $2200 billion higher on revenues and speaker boehner, $200 billion on spending cuts. >> if you get 80% of what you want, that's a pretty good day. >> reporter: tough decision ahead, six days left. >> lawmakers are saying they will likely take on tax reform and spending cuts again in the new year when the debt ceiling debate heats up. richard, back to you. >> looks like they will be working over the new year. thanks for your time. >>> a note was left by the suspected shooter that killed two firefighters in new york. more on details of the person already convicted of murder. >> reporter: police say this christmas eve ambush of four volunteer firefighters attacked as they arrived to battle a massive fire in new york. >> it was a raging inferno out there. >> reporter: it was spelled out in typewritten detail. >> quote i still have to get ready to see how much of the neighborhood i can burn down and do what i like doing best, killing people. >> reporter: authorities say 62-year-old william spengler, who served prison time for killing his grandmother more than 30 year
. >> the president was $2200 billion higher on revenues and speaker boehner, $200 billion on spending cuts. >> if you get 80% of what you want, that's a pretty good day. >> reporter: tough decision ahead, six days left. >> lawmakers are saying they will likely take on tax reform and spending cuts again in the new year when the debt ceiling debate heats up. richard, back to you. >> looks like they will be working over the new year. thanks for your time. >>>...
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will boehner reconvene the house? >> reporter: i'm told by a source familiar with the call, which just happened within last hour, as you said, that no decision was made on the schedule or timing for the house. as we talked about an hour ago, the leaders in the house have promised the members that they won't be called back without 48 hours notice. so at this point it is wednesday afternoon, they won't even be back, the earliest, until a saturday, if they haven't made a decision today. but, of course, it is true, basic civics tells us all this, that nothing can get done until the house and senate pass it. however, the action, which is really focused on the house up until now, will be and is now more on the senate. the senate democratic leader harry reid is the one trying to figure out if he can get the votes from enough republicans to pass the kind of scaled back bill that the president himself talked about on friday before he went to hawaii, which is effectively his plan to keep taxes in place, tax cuts in place, i sho
will boehner reconvene the house? >> reporter: i'm told by a source familiar with the call, which just happened within last hour, as you said, that no decision was made on the schedule or timing for the house. as we talked about an hour ago, the leaders in the house have promised the members that they won't be called back without 48 hours notice. so at this point it is wednesday afternoon, they won't even be back, the earliest, until a saturday, if they haven't made a decision today. but,...
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speaker john boehner has not even committed to bringing the house back into session. the senate will come back on thursday. and not deal with the fiscal cliff but deal with spending bills to clean up new york and connecticut and new jersey from hurricane sandy and reauthorize some intelligence bills. so i mean, there's no real deal in the offing. there's nothing going on behind the scenes that would lead us to believe that anything would get done before january 1. >> all right. josh, out to you. obviously a lot of the discussion has been around the kind of deal that we would get if we do get something. if a deal does come through, it -- more likely will not be comprehensive, right? there's going to be a lot of negotiating that occurs after the first of the year. i guess my question to you is, does this leave the markets open to turmoil and more volatility as we head into january? >> the markets are going to be left open to turmoil and volatility, period. what we've seen is that despite the stakes getting higher, this isn't a game of poker but one of go fish. and no on
speaker john boehner has not even committed to bringing the house back into session. the senate will come back on thursday. and not deal with the fiscal cliff but deal with spending bills to clean up new york and connecticut and new jersey from hurricane sandy and reauthorize some intelligence bills. so i mean, there's no real deal in the offing. there's nothing going on behind the scenes that would lead us to believe that anything would get done before january 1. >> all right. josh, out...
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house speaker john boehner said they've had no communication with senator reid. >>> the exconwho ambushed and killed two volunteer firefighters in upstate new york may have murdered his sister. her body was found yesterday, and police say william spamglor had the same kind of military rifle used in the connecticut school massacre. he left behind a chilling note. >> reporter: the christmas eve fire in western new york burned seven homes to the ground, but police say william spangler wanted to do much worse. he planned to burn down the entire neighborhood and "do what i like doing best, killing people." the 62-year-old shot at firefighters from a nearby bank. he killed two of them before taking his own life. police found his note and three guns, including a bushmaster rifle, similar to the weapon used m connecticut school shooting. >> he is a convicted felon. he had murdered his grandmother in 1980. he bludgeoned her to death with a hammer. >> reporter: he served 17 years in prison, and after being released moved in with his sisters. investigators found the body in the charred rubble of his
house speaker john boehner said they've had no communication with senator reid. >>> the exconwho ambushed and killed two volunteer firefighters in upstate new york may have murdered his sister. her body was found yesterday, and police say william spamglor had the same kind of military rifle used in the connecticut school massacre. he left behind a chilling note. >> reporter: the christmas eve fire in western new york burned seven homes to the ground, but police say william...
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. >> and return to washington after john boehner failed to get enough support for a plan b that would raise taxes on those making more than a million dollars a year. >> what the present has offered will not do anything to solve our spending problems and begin to address our nation's crippling debt. >> with the january 1 deadline quickly approaching, some are worried we could fall off. >> if that happens, it would be the most colossal act of congressional irresponsibility in a long time. >> the president is expected to arrive tomorrow morning. hallie jackson, wbal-tv 11 news. >> you have a few days to save hundreds of dollars at tax time. postmark the application by december 31 or you'll have to wait another year. homeowners must submit an application to maintain their eligibility for credit which limits the amount of assessment increase. >> the fiscal cliff could start impacting the food supply. dairy prices could double if congress does not renew the farm bill. $8it would got to 30 habout for milk sometime after january 1. >> it could force individuals to find substitutes for milk. >
. >> and return to washington after john boehner failed to get enough support for a plan b that would raise taxes on those making more than a million dollars a year. >> what the present has offered will not do anything to solve our spending problems and begin to address our nation's crippling debt. >> with the january 1 deadline quickly approaching, some are worried we could fall off. >> if that happens, it would be the most colossal act of congressional irresponsibility...
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now we are hearing that both president obama and and john boehner are preparing to get back to washington. if they can't work out an agreement and we go over the fiscal cliff it of course will mean smaller paychecks and automatic hefty spending cuts. according to economists possibly another recession. with just days until that deadline, time to cut a deal is rapidly running out. ed henry with the president in honolulu, hawaii. ed, as we get this news. possibly the president leaving his vacation early? >> that's right, jamie. we are now learning from an administration official that it is likely the president will be leaving hawaii tomorrow. probably in the evening to get back to washington early thursday. possibly meet with congressional leaders. start working the phones, trying to move this forward because, frankly, when you talk to administration officials in private, they admit this is pretty tall right now because the president hasn't had a conversation with speaker boehner since last friday. now, if there is any hope in any of this, it's the fact that the president's aides say that bo
now we are hearing that both president obama and and john boehner are preparing to get back to washington. if they can't work out an agreement and we go over the fiscal cliff it of course will mean smaller paychecks and automatic hefty spending cuts. according to economists possibly another recession. with just days until that deadline, time to cut a deal is rapidly running out. ed henry with the president in honolulu, hawaii. ed, as we get this news. possibly the president leaving his vacation...
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the real question is whether house speaker john boehner would allow a vote on this plan on the house floor, knowing that so many house republicans oppose o. jim. t nancy cordes with the president in hawaii. thank you. farmers will also feel the impact if lawmakers fail to reach a deal on the fiscal cliff. bimultibillion-dollar aid bill may be a casualty of the casuemate. the ripple effects would be felt far from the fields. we asked anna warner to look into that. >> reporter: eagle lake, texas, depends on rice. it's been grown here since the 1800s. drought is usually the biggest threat, but the nervous talk in the drugstore now is about congress. >> without the farm bill, it really makes it uncertain for ehat you should do next year. >> reporter: steve is a pharmacist here and a rice farmer. the people are nervous. >> very nervous. wh reporter: what are they saying when they're coming in? what are you hearing? >> "what do we do?" you know, they don't know what to do. ht's so uncertain right now that the banks don't know what to do. the farmers don't know what it do. they're out there
the real question is whether house speaker john boehner would allow a vote on this plan on the house floor, knowing that so many house republicans oppose o. jim. t nancy cordes with the president in hawaii. thank you. farmers will also feel the impact if lawmakers fail to reach a deal on the fiscal cliff. bimultibillion-dollar aid bill may be a casualty of the casuemate. the ripple effects would be felt far from the fields. we asked anna warner to look into that. >> reporter: eagle lake,...
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the house failed to get to a vote with speaker boehner's plan. it looks like the best they can do, really, is some kind of a partial agreement that -- with some of the fiscal cliff provisions are going to take effect on january 1st. this is what everybody was hoping would not happen but it looks imminent. >> let's just say your scenario's right and the temporary fix comes from the senate and harry reid but it has to go back to the house. then what? >> the other part is the senate. the 60 vote rule of the filibuster. they have to clear that 60-vote point if somebody blocks this in the senate. then it goes back to the house. there's a lot of questions about whether spiker boehner can control his republican caucus. he could not get the votes a week ago and we don't know if we could this time. what might happen is the tax provisions -- the taxes go up january 1st and then the senate might arrange for then a vote to cut taxes, which is a lot less onerous than to allow taxes to increase or vote to raise taxes. so without getting too far into the weeds
the house failed to get to a vote with speaker boehner's plan. it looks like the best they can do, really, is some kind of a partial agreement that -- with some of the fiscal cliff provisions are going to take effect on january 1st. this is what everybody was hoping would not happen but it looks imminent. >> let's just say your scenario's right and the temporary fix comes from the senate and harry reid but it has to go back to the house. then what? >> the other part is the senate....
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john boehner suffered an embarrassment thursday night. >> at least he suffered it then. didn't have this great big deal we thought would avert everything and get us where we want to go and then not deliver. are you sure the president can deliver everything from his side. >> the deal will look like the budget control act of the summer of 2011 where you get democrats and republicans voting for it. all you learned thursday night is the president can't deliver 218 of his own guys for a deal. this is something the media isn't really picking up on much. >> the speaker. >> sorry. the speaker. for a deal which was never going to become law. remember, a member of congress, a republican, i know plenty of them, are willing to vote for revenue increases. they say we have this deal harry reid said the senate won't pick up and ask you to vote for revenue increase or tax hike, a lot of republicans will say hell no to that whereas they might vote for the larger deal that stands for a chance of addressing the fiscal cliff. >> congressman, what is the chance we're doing this in february a
john boehner suffered an embarrassment thursday night. >> at least he suffered it then. didn't have this great big deal we thought would avert everything and get us where we want to go and then not deliver. are you sure the president can deliver everything from his side. >> the deal will look like the budget control act of the summer of 2011 where you get democrats and republicans voting for it. all you learned thursday night is the president can't deliver 218 of his own guys for a...
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house speaker john boehner wants increase for those making only 1 million a year. they say it's more likely we will go over the cliff than not. >> if we allow that to happen it will be the most colossal consequential act of congressional you are responsibility in a long time. >> reporter: some republicans are saying president barack obama will actually get his way if a fiscal cliff is not reached before the deadline, kyle la campbell, washington d.c. newsroom. >>> and in general delegations are not as crowded as the first ones. as many as 800,000 are expected to be there for the president's 21st inauguration and that's less than those who flooded the area in 2009. >>> it should be much better and governor brown wants to overhaul the state's funding system. he hopes to give them fair control of how the school operates their money in minority districts. he is expected to outline proposals in his january budget. >>> john mcafee is expected to be spending time in great britain. he posted a blog saying he is safe in the country where he grew up. he is safe in england an
house speaker john boehner wants increase for those making only 1 million a year. they say it's more likely we will go over the cliff than not. >> if we allow that to happen it will be the most colossal consequential act of congressional you are responsibility in a long time. >> reporter: some republicans are saying president barack obama will actually get his way if a fiscal cliff is not reached before the deadline, kyle la campbell, washington d.c. newsroom. >>> and in...
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., carol, you'll recall when talks fell apart last week between house speaker john boehner and the president as the president departed for hawaii he talked to reporters in the briefing room and he said "see you next week" so i think we had a sense he would be coming back earlier than initially planned and it was just a matter of when, not if, and he'll be heading back tonight, that's local time so he'll be traveling overnight, it's quite a long flight, nine or ten hours and he'll be back in d.c. by thursday late morning. >> any behind the scene talks over the holiday? >> reporter: right now the white house has been in communication with senate democrats but i've checked in with my sources even this morning, republican sources and they're still not in touch with senate democrats or the white house, so that's pretty key. i guess you can understand it right now the white house and senate democrats are trying to cobble something together as they work towards putting forth a proposal. ultimately it needs republican support in the senate and the house. those discussions have to take place at some
., carol, you'll recall when talks fell apart last week between house speaker john boehner and the president as the president departed for hawaii he talked to reporters in the briefing room and he said "see you next week" so i think we had a sense he would be coming back earlier than initially planned and it was just a matter of when, not if, and he'll be heading back tonight, that's local time so he'll be traveling overnight, it's quite a long flight, nine or ten hours and he'll be...
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it's true speaker boehner brought another bill for consideration to the house majority. but that's just -- >> and they rejected it. >> that's just moving the hot potato around. nothing is getting done. >> if you look at it, the house has passed a budget for three years in a row. the senate has not pass ted the budget. what family in the united states can make its way if it doesn't have a budget? that's what we have. the senate wanted ed to go awar part of the holiday season. tomorrow, everyone is coming back and we're ready to go to work. >> realistically, we're talking to brianna keilar, realistically can there be a grandiose bill that will attempt to solve our spending, deficit problem, with the overall framework? or talking about a band-aid? >> personally, i don't think we'll get the big plan in the next six days. it would be great if we could. >> the whole enchilada. but at least if we can get an appetizer -- no, seriously. if we can get assurance that realistic work is being done to provide tax relief, regulatory relief. the two big laws passed previously in 2010. a
it's true speaker boehner brought another bill for consideration to the house majority. but that's just -- >> and they rejected it. >> that's just moving the hot potato around. nothing is getting done. >> if you look at it, the house has passed a budget for three years in a row. the senate has not pass ted the budget. what family in the united states can make its way if it doesn't have a budget? that's what we have. the senate wanted ed to go awar part of the holiday season....
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not one thing that speaker boehner proposed that reid said, oh, we can work with that. it's about scoring political points. the american people are tired of all of us, i understand that. we just make used car salesmen look good. that's the only group is below us. but we've got to get our act together, and prove to the american people that we can regain the trust that they once had in us and get the job done. and as you say, not kick the can down the road. they want to us work this out. i hope we do. >> let's talk about something a little more bright. the former marine stuck in mexico. if you don't know the story, he was basically trying to go on a surfing trip. an old winnebago and a bunch of surf boards and some sort of antique, torn apart gun that he wanted to use to hunt rabbits and birds. he got caught up in the judicial system and was languishing in prison, a pretty rough prison across the border and nobody from the united states seemed to be caring much about him, isn't that what was going on, congresswoman? >> absolutely. this is a feel-good christmas story with
not one thing that speaker boehner proposed that reid said, oh, we can work with that. it's about scoring political points. the american people are tired of all of us, i understand that. we just make used car salesmen look good. that's the only group is below us. but we've got to get our act together, and prove to the american people that we can regain the trust that they once had in us and get the job done. and as you say, not kick the can down the road. they want to us work this out. i hope...